![]() ![]() I think the text you cited, Findekano, was just an idea Tolkien came up with after writing the Silmarillion, like myriades of other ideas he came up with, even long after he wrote LoTR, UT and the Sil. Turin was also a man, so wouldn't this be impossible and aganst his 'fate' to stay in Mandos? And doesn't he become a 'Child of a God' at the end? Also note, again the term 'Child of a God' represents Numenorean mythos since the Valar shouldn't rightly be called 'gods' but were dubbed so by some men, It's kind of like Gimli calling Galadriel 'Queen of Lothlorien'.Īddition: It seems that Turin's coming back was one of Andreth's prophecies, carried down perhaps: I believe Andreth comments on him coming back to slay Ancalagon, though this was later given to Earendil, and at one point Turin came back in the Dagorath to slay Anacalagon. ![]() One can therefore assume that it was a Numenorean courruption of a Eldarin text, or idea, liek the ideas of the Sun and Moon coming from the Two Trees, but it seems this has little basis. This quote from the Valaquenat in the Published Silmarillion should disprove it too:Īnd if any change shall come and the Marring be amended, Manw’ and Varda may know but they have not revealed it, and it is not declared in the dooms of Mandos. As I have mentioned the Second Prophecy is not a authentic Noldorin text, in fact the 'Athrabeth' claims that there wasn't even a prophecy that Namo made concerning Arda's end: As I said it is doubtful whether Turin's slaying of Morgoth in the Dagorath is true, and rather it should belong with the earlier pre-LoTR Silmarillion work, although it is mentioned once or twice in the Latter Quentas.Įven though there is never (Or I belive) any abanonment of the Second Prophecy but one can assume that all evidence is weighed against the events mentioned actually taking place. Fionwe is here a son of Manwe in a timeline in which the Valar were still capable of pro-creation.īack to the 'Second Prophecy of Mandos' which is given in the Early Quenta Silmarillion. The canonical on Turin coming back in the Dagorath and together with Eonwe (pre-cusor of Maia Warrior Fionwe. Read Myths Transformed (HoME 10) for more info. He was a incarnate being by the end of the First Age thus his execution was possible. Morgoth was executed by Namo and his spirit fled to the void. ![]()
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